The TRUTH About the Sonya Massey Shooting – from an ACTUAL lawyer who litigates police shootings



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20 thoughts on “The TRUTH About the Sonya Massey Shooting – from an ACTUAL lawyer who litigates police shootings”

  1. We have no evidence they were inside by consent. Deputy 2 was inspecting a vehicle outside when Deputy 1 entered, and his body cam was off. Deputy 2 followed inside without requesting permission.

    THEY instructed her to attend to the water. She was on the sofa. Deputy 2 could easily have asked, and walked over and turned the gas off.

    She was already emptying the pot. She complied by putting the pot down and getting on the floor.

    She tried to comply further by reaching for the pot and emptying the remained on the floor. There is no forward motion or attempt to throw the contents. At the point he shoots, the pot is inverted and empty.

  2. This man should have never been a police officer and should never have been handed a badge in a gun. He's been at six different places since 2020. He's got in trouble at all of them. Why isn't there a database for bad cops like this?

  3. Great breakdown of events.
    Such a shame that there are some folk out there that will still shout from the rooftops that you are wrong.
    Unfortunately there are so many nowadays (especially on twitter/X), who will lean toward a certain opinion/conclusion largely based on their bias.

  4. Facebook is not allowing your video on. I shared twice and it didnt show like other videos. I did this earlier. Tried again. Still not showing. So is facebook trying to censor it? Prayers for her fsmily.

  5. Just another reason why Qualified Immunity needs to be stripped away from ALL Police as well as all public servants as this gives them an idea that they can do anything that they want without any repercussions. And that’s so wrong. And this video proves why it needs to be stripped away.

  6. AWESOME analysis. I used to watch the LEO Roundtable, to see older experienced officers' take on things. After about 2 years there was nothing new and I was getting very tired of the politics becoming blatant and biased.

    But I did learn a lot. I also went to the pages for some of those continuing education seminars for officers they talked about. My only real question about those is why it took so long for various state agencies to start to ban that training as incorrect, and It took a little longer than I expected for the defense lawyers to start using that. The LEO Round Table folks were big on the warrior schtick. One cheered whenever a canine savaged a suspect, which was the biggest reason I had to stop watching because I've trained animals, and the training of K9 is TERRIBLE. I have trained a cat better than most of those police dogs.

    I've commented several times over the years on this, after I actually read some of the training materials. One of the things police are trained for, and this is specifically from official training materials "How to deal with the threat of passive resistance." By itself, it sounds silly. In the context of what just happened and other training they receive, my only question is why It's taken this long for us to get such a clean case.

    The other piece of police training that makes this kind of situation inevitable was the fact they are trained that they must maintain control of the situation at all times. A non-compliant individual is also considered a threat, see comments about the threat of passive resistance. In fact, in one of my last interactions with the Leo round table, they had been calling an innocent man a bad guy because he hadn't complied, and also had done a fairly good review on an officer who got caught deliberately breaking the law. I commented that the one person never broke the law while the officer was the criminal. So doesn't that make the officer the bad guy and the other person just a citizen? I very definitively was told that the person being non-compliant is a bad guy, and got grudging admission that yes the criminal officer was also a bad guy. So a non-compliant non-criminal, for this group of five senior police and trainers, was more easily identifiable as a bad guy than a fellow cop who had clearly been deliberately violating the law in a criminal fashion.

    Her "rebuking them in the name of Jesus" should be covered under two parts of the First amendment, first both freedom of speech if it's seen as criticizing the cops, and secondly this is clearly religious speech. I would bet every single Christian in this country would consider that Christian religious speech. They may not agree with her conclusion, but if you've had any exposure to the Bible, religious movies, religious videos on YouTube, I don't know it's so pervasive add on whatever else you can think of, but being rebuked in the name of Jesus tells me that individual is a Christian, and I would suspect well read and/or devout.

    As a footnote, The Civil rights lawyer did a very good job of analyzing her actions In the light most favorable to the policeman who killed her. Please understand shining a bright light on something in general means you can see it in all its glory, or horror. I could just as strongly, based on her final motions, say that she wasn't trying to throw the water at the cop but she was trying to hide underneath the kettle. She was elderly and scared at that moment. As an in-between scenario she may have been figuring she'll grab the pot and dump it out on the floor because she doesn't understand why he's yelling at her about the pot and is aiming a gun at her face. 1:20:431:29:48 seconds gives her five seconds to figure out how to comply with an order she can't comply with because she isn't holding the pot at all. I think we need to see an analysis of the motion of the water and pot right before to right after she is shot. My bet was she grabbed and was emptying out the pot in a way to show the officer she was trying to comply, but was confused because he was issueing impossible orders – it's a little hard to put down something already on the counter.

    The best news is that under Illinois Law the officer may be in as much trouble as Derek Chauvin was under Minnesota law. There is no good news, since an innocent lady is already dead. Hopefully there will be justice.

  7. There is no way a 110 woman is able to grab and throw a big pot of water with one hand. She was trying to shield herself, and even with most of the water emptied, she would've spilled it with using one hand. The pot doesn't even have an extended handle.

  8. She was following orders of two officers holding guns pointed at her to "drop the pot" that she didn't have, meant she had to get up and "again" get the pot as ordered so as to actually "drop-the-pot" as was ordered by two cops as if the pot constituted danger in the position it was in. Advocating "spiritual warfare" by calling on "Jesus" to remove "Satan's" spirit, in which she rightfully discerned in the shooter and he/it responded "don't do that". There's no evidence indicating they were "invited" in. The shooter didn't have his camera on. Obviously she didn't want them in because of how she "dragged-her-feet" about answering the door for them originally. From the very beginning she scensed something was terribly wrong. And so it was! 😮

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