Does a Police Checkpoint on a Bike-Trail Violate the Fourth Amendment?



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28 thoughts on “Does a Police Checkpoint on a Bike-Trail Violate the Fourth Amendment?”

  1. Wow cops just keep over stepping every law and it dont matter.the hid behind there job they nothing more then crimanal cops people stand up change this bad behaver..this is america.not nazzi Germany

  2. There is no violation for them to ASK if they can see inside your bags, etc. The violation is if they detain you and force the search! The police can ASK anything they want, and even LIE to the public, but their ACTIONS are what make the difference!

  3. First of all, the city HAS to give those cops something to do since they are not allowed to do anything about real crimes on the inner city streets! That's why Chicago has so much violence! The cops are out harassing people they know are not a danger to them, and violating civil rights is just icing on the cake of shifting public sentiments about being violated on a routine basis!

  4. They're only violating your 4th if they take and search your bag after you say no, or they arrest you for refusing. Otherwise they're just lying – and we all know there is no lie a cop won't tell to convince you they can do what they want to do. Especially since admiting they know it's illegal is how they lose qualified immunity. The way LEO's treat the public with distain tells you everything you need to know about them.

  5. Possibly dumb question. I went to a local museum which I believe is privately owned (though I'm sure they benefit from some government funding sources), They were holding an event for which tickets were sold. At the entrance they had a uniformed police officer checking everyone's bags (for food, and drinks), but no body searches. I assume that if anyone refused they would not be allowed in even though they paid to be there.
    I understand that a property owner has a lot of latitude to deny people entrance, but because they employed a uniformed peace officer to do the searches does that bring it back under the 4th Amendment? If so, should they have just had private security? Also, can the officer then determine who gets to enter based upon a search refusal, or does an actual employee of the museum need to make that determination for each individual?

    I'm certainly no lawyer, but it just felt wrong that qa government agent could refuse my access to an event I paid to attend, based upon my exercising my 4th Amendment rights.

  6. This reminds me of gun control. Instead of dealing with the actual problems where they know they are at they target law-abiding citizens and say “look we’re doing something”. 🤡🌎

  7. As I stand by silently begging for them to force a search upon me. Then when I am arrested for refusal, tell them "The first card in my wallet is the law firm that I keep on retainer. I've been waiting for you."

  8. They are stopping pedestrians on their way without due cause. This is on its face a violation. They are not park rangers and this is not a state park either. Completely unreasonable to even ask because as you stated compliance would be affected by coercion. This isn’t ISIS territory.

  9. I’m sorry, but you lawyers need to get educated on the constitution. You will not find “administrative search” anywhere in the constitution. So NO, that is not legal either. Sooo many attorneys that don’t know a thing about the constitution.

  10. No it’s not legal. All of the DUI checkpoints they do are all illegal. We have the right to travel free and unrestricted across the country. They CANNOT just stop everyone to see if they have something. There just be a warrant signed by. A judge with that persons name in it and a list of any items to be seized. If they find something that is not on the list, they cannot legally seize it. This has always been illegal but everyone shuts up and does as they are told. All of this has to stop. Just like the stop and frisk in NY. Totally illegal. Everyone needs to sue these police departments and demand those officers be fired and those who told them to do this be fired as well.

  11. While I am sure the city would win in court concerning the BEACH searchers on an individual basis with probable cause, but I doubt that their searches where there WERE would hold up… but they pointed to the sign about the BEACH search matter. What would be a better policy, if they have been having problems on the beach, to simply patrol the beaches and watch out for problems. But that is not what they are doing. They are not only being lazy, but it is a massive overreach while violating citizens' rights.

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