Legal analysis tonight following the close of evidence in the #KyleRittenhouseTrial with attorneys Chris Wiest and John Bryan. Live at 6:30 p.m. ET. It’s day 10 of the Rittenhouse trial. The evidence is in, jury instructions are in dispute, and closing arguments are scheduled for Monday. Duty to retreat? Provocation? Video footage? Join us to discuss.. #LegalAnalysis #RittenhouseJuryInstructions
Freedom is Scary, Ep. 81.
John Bryan: https://thecivilrightslawyer.com
Chris Wiest: http://cwiestlaw.com
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Disagree with your opinion on the objections. Sometimes the judge jumped in before the defense could but l think Kyle handled Flufferboy Binger extremely well. He made Binger look like a condescending turd to the jury.
When Mr Rittenhouse took the stand everything fell into place for me..
This is a young boy trying to help,he was trying to do good,was he under age "yes" but age doesn't stop you from wanting/doing good thing's.
From what I can gather he broke one part of the law with the gun law(I think)sorry I don't live in America.
Did he lie about being PMT.."yes".
For the rest that happened that night I saw a young boy not being aggressive to anyone,asking people if they needed help,put out fire's…Yes he did have a riffle but from what I saw he wasn't the only one,there were groups all over with gun's (at the time no one knew he was under age so why would he stick out like a sore thumb)..
They can argue he didn't live there(but his dad did,he stay there with his dad) but how many people that were there smashing the city up actually lived or had family there)…
The people he was with rang for help so he was heading there to help,in doing so he ended up being in the wrong place at the wrong time…He walked into the path of those 3…
The man with read T-Shirt and tried to take on a bunch of men with guns, thankfully people were there to stop him/pull him back,if he hadn't got pulled back I think he would have ended up getting himself shot there.
Mr Rittenhouse came face to face with him and that man and wife,what chance did he have,there was no one there to pull that aggressive man back(just 2 people that had hung around him egging him on)No one knew he had threaten to kill Mr Rittenhouse…
Mr Rittenhouse ran to get away from them,he didn't stand and shoot them,he ran…. You yes he stopped turned and pointed his gun at him(didn't shoot),but as everyone saw that didn't him..
The prosecutor tried to say Mr Rittenhouse wasn't trapped,he could have ran through the car's,but as a video shows there were a mob mashing car's,(he's scared,he's running from a man that had all ready threatened to kill him the presents of a gun wasn't stopping him,he's make split second decisions,saw a mob he had to turn and face his attacker..)to me that's self defense,his attacker had the opportunity to stop walk away but he didn't,he chose to keep running to get Mr Rittenhouse…
For the other attack on Mr Rittenhouse self defense,he was on the ground defending himself,these people didn't walk up to him and try and talk he were attacking him…
That medic Gaige,"I was wasn't chasing him,I was running in his direction"No he was a medic that left a man shot to run after a man that wasn't injured…
He ran upon a man with his own gun out who was on the ground that had just been attacked that had fired his gun at his attacker's,then lunged at him and he didn't expect to be shot…
And as he stayed he preserves life, wants going to fire it..but Mr Rittenhouse can't say the same,he had a riffle but didn't want to fire it…and he actually didn't until he had to defend himself…Grown men chased him down…frankly either one of them would be sitting where Mr Rittenhouse is today for his death..
Piece of advice to Gaiges ex flat mate,next time you think you clever posting … expecting to go viral on what your friends have said,take a VIDEO NOT A PICTURE with what they have said,then when it back fires on you like this did, they can't deny it….
The three assialents should have been charged
Hope your successful on eliminating Qualified Immunity. Maybe if cops are held personally responsible for their own actions, they will stop stomping on citizens constitutional rights.
Here in Canada you are effectively not permitted to protect yourself. The government is attempting to disarm legal gun owners, meanwhile they are shutting down churches, arresting pastors, throwing hundreds of thousands out of jobs into the streets. We are all now in police states. Remember the German people in 1930 did not believe it could happen to them.
IS THE ACCUSED permitted to deliver the closing argument? ??self defense privilege??
I live on another continent far away from US law and what is happening on the streets in your country but for me the biggest issue and failure ( IMO crime ) are the individuals/politicians/public representatives who allowed these riots to proceed without police control – these are the lawbreakers who should be on trial !
Binger was going to say that the blurry blown up and highly edited photo was proof of him pointing the gun… which was a provocation of the first shooter.
Also –
Isn't the whole argument that he was provoking them by carrying the firearm the same as the argument that a woman is asking for "it" by dressing in certain outfits?
I agree with Chris that he needed to testify but his lawyers should have objected some of the times. If they objected to many times it would have played into the prosecutions hands. It would be my hope (and I know he did) that the Judge would slap him down for doing his B. S..
It's cases of Barratry like this that erode our Rights! (Barratry – created litigation that wouldn't naturally or Constitutionally normally exist forced to court for the sole purpose of profit and or gain.
Up front I haven't seen all of the trial but: his lawyer should have caught that Rosenbam's girlfriend didn't have him stay with her that night. What was going on with them? Why didn't they bring in someone from the hospital about the medication, and if he had taken them that morning? Rosenbam was bipolar and he may have not been in a good state of mind. And the rest he was more of then enough for self defense.
In a future episode could you two discuss why prosecutorial misconduct, especially that resulting in a wrongful conviction, does not automatically fall under 18 US 242?
Seems that most of this misconduct is a denial or violation of rights under color of law. Doesn't there exist a right to a fair constitutional, legal and transparent trial.
Due process, the right to examine evidence and face accusers…..
Are these not all rights protected by the constitution and violated by any act made by the state which denies the protection of these rights?
Can states not enforce federal laws?
Seems like most sanctions even when they exist are quite minimal compared to the consequences to the rights of the defendant.
Hey, let's not also forget just how badly the defense protected the witness/defendant.
Ask and answered, relevance, purview, speculation….the missed objections were horrendous.
What about the discussion the defense has about having a weapon even for a 17 year old?
If I were a juror on this case I would very much dislike Binger. As I understand, there is one African American and possibly an Asian or Hispanic juror in the group sitting before elimination of alternates.
I'd like to challenge your opening.
"When the police won't do it, and someone steps in."
From the father of modern policing, Sir Robert Peel, the police are the public the public are the police.
Police are only individual citizens paid to give full time attention to the details of law enforcement encumbant upon all citizens but for whom such attention cannot be given.
A paraphrasing.
It need not be that the police will not, it might be they cannot. Either way it is the duty of every citizen within a community to police that community, especially and most notably the officers and officials bestowed with the trust of that community.
I challenge the idea that this is justified "because" police would not or could not do something.
Just clarifying, let's not give away the livestock to keep the farm. Give no inch or quarter just as you suggest the defense should be doing.
If Kyle Rittenhouse is convicted it just shows
how far the cancer of IiberaIism has advanced !
Kyle Rittenhouse is totally and absolutely innocent of ANY wrong doings !
Hail Kyle Rittenhouse !
Great analysis guys.
Watch a pro thought crime defense attorney! Arbery Trial. Say no to thought crimes (intent).
5:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9g0ZlZRTVM
Are you guys even attorneys
Everything wrong with our judicial system can be summed up with this trial.
Pro tip, watch at 1.5 times speed. It's the only way I can take the prosecutor.
Rittenhouse has a piss poor defense team. If they see this, let me help you out morons. Learn, "objection your honor, asked and answered" for f's sake. Agreeing to lesser charges was a mistake.
I don't think that, even if he aimed a firearm at Zielinski, which I couldn't really see even in the "enhanced" drone footage, it doesn't mean he intended to provoke someone into fighting. If anything, one would think it would be a deterrent.
In my view he was fine standing his ground in one area. He made a phone call then began to move location. That I think is what gives the impression of an armed active shooter on the loose, giving the preception of him fleeing from the crime scene to the crowd. There is definitely 2 views that conflict on the street, but I dont think anyone needed to die over someone else's property's that they themselves are not willing to protect. Even the police were down the street not caring what happened to those buildings. Kyles mistake was running away and not taking responsibility of his actions after the life he just took. He acted like a coward and ran, he ended up killing and wounding more people.
I don't think anyone appreciated the testimony of officer Bray when Binger asked her if she had any experience with the AR-15. Her first response was that she owned one and said it so matter of factly. This may seem like a small thing but could have positive influence with any female jurists. imo
Drinking game. Take a drink every time one says "you know."
the judge could not rule on pixel distortion.baecause he was not capable, so he let in provocation
Rittenhouse admitting that he's actually Not an EMT is very different from three people trying to kill him, Rittenhouse tried to get away from all of these people, he used his firearm as a very last resort, going to a "Riot" with a concealed firearm, advancing and pulling out that firearm, pointing the firearm and then not being prosecuted? Unfortunately, it's Political and win or lose……. it's a win for the Liberal Left! Most of the population would see this as obvious self defence but sadly few of them would try to protect their community and property, let alone with a firearm, putting themselves in harms way!
The correct solution is to rehabilitate the idea that service weapons are what the 2nd AMD protects and it's ok to own one
Hollow points wont necessarily expand at such close range at 2300 fps and FMJ doesn't penetrate through flesh like it does through dry wall.
Mainly 223 or 5.56 full metal jacket tumbles in flesh because it's so light .
Provocation instruction screwed Kyle
Not guilty is what i say
The Prosecutor has IMMUNITY. He doesn't Care as He Knows Nothing will Happen to them..
Seems to me if they are charging him as an adult, it contradicts the fact he was a minor at the time for the weapons charge.
They are not trying Kyle they are trying the right to bare arms
If he wasn't there, he wouldn't have been in this nightmare. He had no dog in the fight. Hi from KY.