Here’s what happened today at the 4th Circuit in the AR-15 Open Carry Case



I just finished participating in remote oral arguments before the US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in the Walker v. Donahoe case, out of Putnam County, WV – also known as the AR-15 Open Carry C&$ksucker case. At issue is whether we have any Fourth Amendment rights left in America, and also whether the AR-15 is a scary black rifle, the mere possession of which turns one into a mass murdering psychopath.

If you missed it live, you can listen to the recording of the arguments from this afternoon on the court’s youtube channel here: https://youtu.be/M-jhuERWWqg?t=9320

Here’s the original video at issue: https://youtu.be/FidBe0w0dCU

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31 thoughts on “Here’s what happened today at the 4th Circuit in the AR-15 Open Carry Case”

  1. John, you could also allege Patterns and Practices because the cop openly stated that it's a common practice for him to stop and question every person he comes across that openly has a weapon. Right? Just to touch on this an M16 is a military weapon not an AR-15.

  2. Don't agree with gun rights argument. Don't agree with West Virginia's interpretation of 2nd amendment. Don't like guns. DO support West Virginia's legislature if they interpret case law how they see fit. DO support Hawaii's legislature if they interpret case law differently. DO support 4th amendment. DO support 1st amendment. Do support 5th amendment. Do want to be able to move to Hawaii from texas (did) if I agree with their laws. DO support upholding legislative action and not legislating from the bench. Do NOT support rogue cops deciding which laws they do and do not enforce. Do not support cops making up laws on the fly. Do not support government officials Do support this guy exercising his rights as legislature says he has them. I DO support this guy and it's scary. Guns are scary. This guy losing is scarier.

  3. Its a shame that mainstream medea forces us to YouTube which in turn censors us.
    Otherwise I would say you need your own show YESTERDAY.
    All the "cop" shows have had 'their' day, which I think is wrong and is tesponsible for all this ego crap.
    Maybe all the major social media platforms need to be changed to accomplish a free-er press.

  4. this decision by the district court is disingenuous. car accidents caused an estimated 3,160 deaths in February 2023. this is just one month. the average monthly number of people who die in car accidents is about 3,000 people. with the judges logic, the cops should be able to stop anyone driving a car based on the fact that 3,160 people died in car accidents and they can assume reasonably a car accident could happen if they did not stop the car and ID the person. the good old circular logic trick. have you noticed the 3,160 people who died in February of 2023 of car accidents did not get any traction in the corporate news media. I wonder why? but a mass shooting of 2 or more and it's all over the national news. it's all about the ratings and hype and not to offend the car manufactures.

  5. Seems if officer said " I never ID someone for carrying a gun, but your heading towards a school". But he said he always does it so the school should have no bearing in the case.

  6. The argument that "armed and dangerous" meant armed with something potentially dangerous, implies that the founders were being redundant in their phrasing. Another ridiculous conclusion as the founders were anything but verbose.

  7. Eleven states require two-party consent, however. In other words, everyone involved in a conversation must agree to be recorded. Those states are California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington.Mar 18, 2022 does the state laws Trump the constitution.

  8. If they discuss his appearance and the appearance of the fire arm, then they need to discuss is hunting with an AR, while dressed in rural hunting or camouflage clothing is normal in the mountains of WV, and that is yes. It is normal.

  9. All guns are created to kill. You may never need to (hopefully) The odds are you will not. It’s nice to Protect yourself and others. Read the second amendment it does not mention hunting. Not one time

  10. Only in America could this become a contentious issue. In any sane country a guy walking down the road with an AR-15 type rifle strapped to his back would surely be stopped and questioned. Given the number of mass shootings that go on in the USA every year, I don't blame the cop for wanting to stop and question the young man. In America you live by the gun and you die by the gun. Too bad it's your innocent children and other bystanders who have to pay the price. You Americans are insane when it comes to firearms!

  11. I got my undergraduate degree and started law school which I could not complete due to family issues. I would be exactly like the attorney in these videos had I completed school. The constitution and people's rights are obviously near and dear to his heart. Thank you for fighting the good fight that I am so sad I am not able to do with you.

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