Quite a few people sent me this video of Travis Heinze being told to leave Turtle Lake, Wisconsin, for “loitering.” I’m pretty sure I watched this play out in Rambo First Blood. Is this constitutional? Loitering ordinances have been misused by law enforcement for many years. The problem is, they create a criminal offense based on one’s mere presence in a public place, with the lack of any criminal intent. Therefore the police get total power to define who is a criminal, and who is acting lawfully. Of course, this can, and is, misused by police. Which is why the federal courts have addressed the constitutionality of these statutes.
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Note: the reason I discussed the Indianapolis case is because Indiana is in the 7th Circuit, as is Wisconsin – thus they are both in the same federal circuit. I understand that Turtle Lake is in Wisconsin. Sorry if that wasn't clear. More: https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2022/08/30/run-out-of-town-for-loitering-is-that-constitutional/
Yeah, the chief had always planned to retire a month later. Umm, ok. He just got tired of that free money in a crime free village.
Theres a massive majority of consumer america that worship the police.
That guys a weirdo. He goes to the library and watchers p*rn in public.
He's still not as bad as police tho, just saying.
See the update from James Freeman. They changed the town laws!
Loitering laws sound all nice & good until they're used on the wrong guy. One day, the police chief tells a drifter to leave town. The drifter wants to eat first but the cops arrest him for loitering. Next thing you know, the guy escapes jail & is being chased through the woods where he gets the better of the cops & one cop accidentally dies falling from a helicopter after which the National Guard is called in. An Army officer shows up & explains the drifter is actually a highly trained special forces veteran who is highly decorated, even receiving Medal of Honor. The National Guard thinks they kill the drifter in an old mine but they were wrong. Before you know it, the drifter is attacking the town. He blows up a gas station, shoots up the police department, & damn near kills Brian Dennehy but stops himself.
Later on, the government has to get the drifter out of prison to go on a mission to find POW's still in Vietnam. He ends up finding them, rescuing them against orders, watching a woman he connected with get shot by a Vietnamese officer, & eventually fight off Russians to save the POW's.
After that, he does similar stuff in Afghanistan, Burma, & then in the US fighting drug cartels.
In the end, it would have saved a lot of trouble to just let the guy get a meal & continue on his way.
The wording extended period is important…overstaying our welcome, specially in an area not intended for it.
I hope that someone like you offers to help Travis Heinze out with some much needed legal actions and would love to see public examples made out of at least a few of the many oath breaking tyrants featured on his channel.
The only criminal in this video was the chief of police.
Jerseyville, IL is like this.
If you were not born and raised there, don't be there.
If they do not know you, like your hairstyle, your color, your nationality, … you will be run out of town, arrested, and tuned up with tasers.
They also kill children for carrying Bibles.
Google Roger Holyfield.
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You would think this cop realizes how evil he really is but I not so sure. I quite sure he thinks this encounter is simply between Travis and himself. What a surprise he must feel when he realizes how many ordinary people will see the video.
I can't tell you how much I love when cops tell you how they are not going to DISCUSS or DEBATE your rights as they screw you out of them, all for the great and all consuming purpose of getting their way regardless of its legal or not.
The constitution is suspended in Turtle Lake, loitering stand or wait around without apparent purpose. just because you don't know the purpose are too far ranging, if someone is standing he has a purpose his purpose could be standing and count vehicles. This needs to be struck down immediately. Travis got the village to remove that policy, win for the people.
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saying that just going for a walk is loitering would mean that the law has siezed you and forced you to stay inside your home.
Unbelievable, who do these cops think they are..
Do you want a Rambo? Because this is how you get a Rambo.
Travis you need to be-leave
Isn’t these the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. LAND OF THE FREE???what the hell is going on in the stupid town
Violation of 1st amendment right to engage in introspection, thinking in relative peace, to engage in meditation, religion, etc. It is frankly obvious mankind has a right to "loiter".
Of course loitering is a right. You have a right to do nothing, to meditate, to think, to introspect, to rest, to sleep, etc. If you think there is no reason to loiter you are lacking an imagination. Also, a complete violation of the 13th amendment. So what I have to "act with a purpose"…FOR YOU and not for me? That's called involuntary servitude which is not legal.
Update: plus the police chief is retired now. Turtle Lake Police office has a 1 star review. 😆
https://youtu.be/pL9yN4as5RE
The Universe Declaration of Human Rights, Article 13 , Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and Residence within the borders of each state .
Ok , let's swamp there mail box with our thoughts on their abuse of Citizenship !
I wonder if I went there and slept in their American Legion parking lot () if that Cheif would throw me out of town ( I'm a 20+ year Legion member )
So .. if your tired you can't pull over and sleep / get rested ??! I'll be damned if I want to spend any money in their town ! They don't get much Tourist Money there I bet !
This still happening in America so how does that work
Amazing Chief Gabe was run out of town😂😂😂
Glad to see he was fired .
Probably already working down the road.
I know who you are you came from Washington but I want ID
I am sad to still be alive and affraid to drive out of state or even out of town any longer. I was lucky my last trip from Fl. To Texas. Georgia officer followed me around then pulled me over, I was lost and looking for a place for my dogs to go potty. My dogs would have bitten him. I had to ask many times NOT to put hands on my car window. After showing ID and telling him what was going on, he did tell me where to let my dogs go and yes, he came along… I had to be certain he did not get out. Dogs trained to break on command. Load on command but hated men. After the dogs were back in the car, he gave me strict directions on how to leave town. Yes, he followed part way. I have not left Texas. However, Texas officers are sometimes not so nice either.
He's also been forced to move for simply parking off to the side , well off the shoulder of what the officer said was city property and it was not posted privet, they made him leave. The road was not far from a park, was gravel nut I would think that the state and city receive federal money and he was well with in his right to park and rest. As we all have the right to travel , people also have a right to pull over and take breaks as needed on these roads and highways. The things they pull on him simply because how they judge him for his property and socal display and communications. It all boils down to most officers need that desire to be in all God authority. My last hurra here,
Qualified Immunity Has to go. Now after this week month of such police crimes. All Americans have to keep demanding that congress passes this bill finely. Tell your congress person that if they do not do as we demand, that we will replace them with someone who will. Enough is enough. This law got stalled for the last year now, to many politicians on someone's payroll.
I am so glad you are reviewing this video of his, I follow him and i tell you he gets so much hurrasment. I fear one day some bad little city will bring harm to him and abouse him and lock him away. So I am very glad your coving him. Makes me feel better there are good people looking out for him. Thanks
I understand that loitering violates a city ordinance, but the police cannot remove someone from their jurisdiction for loitering.
So if you've been driving all night and need a nap don't stop in Turtle Lake to use their park, to park 🤔
When we went to Turtle Lake to see this anti American Town and their Cop << He retired i guess << Damn it Man < just looking to get paid , they must have plenty of Money to throw around << / we will try again
Quote from former chief Gabe "We don't have a problem with people coming to the community,” he said. “But if you don't want to identify yourself, that’s an issue. We want to know who you are.” No 4th amendment applies here.
More taxpayers money wasted by this kind of "policing"
My father as Chief of Police in Hackett AR arrested an interracial couple without cause. They were detained overnight before being told "Don't let the sun set on your heels in the Town of Hackett" that was early 1980s. Their crime was being an interracial couple in Hackett AR in the early 1980s.
Very disturbing. All cops take an oath to protect the constitutional rights of citizens to serve and protect. I was shocked to hear about this ordinance. I thought Wisconsin people were overly nice and welcoming. They should encourage and welcome outsiders to their town. I have recently read that this town has suspended this ordinance and they need to permanently scrape it from their ordinance list altogether before someone sues.
Why are Turtle Lake's police so piggish that they run people out of town Rambo style ?
He should have told him his name is John Rambo
Why does the chief sound like a discount hank hill?
Loitering laws were created to prevent black people (re: freed slaves) from being in white neighborhoods. That is my personal opinion. Clear violation of the right to be left alone.
So what do homeless ppl do then
These poor ass country towns…
They did Rambo the same way, they drove him out of town and they shouldn't have done that he came back and then it was too late. Ha Ha 😂
Reminds me of Rambo. Yeah what is loitering I know you have the right the first amendment which is panhandling or holding a sign but I hear loitering is
different
Loitering is the biggest joke ever
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